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Deleted User 5/20/2018 6:29 PM
That's what's making me doubtful
6:29 PM
Like internal pressure
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bduddy #Diana# 5/20/2018 6:29 PM
There's a fine line to walk. You can't assume every random thought is your tulpa, because they're not. But you're almost certainly not going to get a loud, clear voice or anything.
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physical or mental?
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Nathan, how long has it been since you've started?
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Deleted User 5/20/2018 6:29 PM
And the I got excited when I heard that's mental
6:30 PM
I've been doing this for a bit, I can't recall how far
6:30 PM
Maybe a few weeks
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give or take
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Some people take months before they do get a first clear response (and some less than a month). Some people have taken a full year or more to get reliable consistent responses.
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bduddy #Diana# 5/20/2018 6:30 PM
simple pressures probably indicate something is going on, but probably aren't actual communication.
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Right. You are still relatively early - it isn't a bad thing for it to take longer.
6:31 PM
Don't be worried about timescale. Focus on them where you can, accept that it might take awhile, and relax. Stressing about it, as much as I understand why you are, won't help you.
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bduddy #Diana# 5/20/2018 6:32 PM
mhm. It can definitely take time.
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bduddy #Diana# 5/20/2018 6:32 PM
Just remember to listen.
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listen, love, and trust
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Deleted User 5/20/2018 6:34 PM
I hear time and I think that it won't happen
6:34 PM
Bad.
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bduddy #Diana# 5/20/2018 6:34 PM
That's the opposite of what that means, though.
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it will happen
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believe. Doubt is the mindkiller
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If it takes time and happens, that is quite different than it not happening.
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bduddy #Diana# 5/20/2018 6:35 PM
It would be bad if everyone else heard their tulpas right away. But they don't.
6:35 PM
You're in the same situation as many others before you.
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Not happening right now is not the same as not happening at all.
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Thanks to all of you, simply for being there, helping all of us newbies. I know I say this a lot but you guys are really quite amazing. I can't thank you enough for all the help you've all given, even if you're just sharing an opinion about something. And you've all helped me chill out a bit too. Your words truly are invaluable.
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We're here to help.
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Deleted User 5/20/2018 6:39 PM
Know what!?
6:39 PM
I'm setting a date
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What?
6:39 PM
A date for what?
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not sure what to say
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bduddy #Diana# 5/20/2018 6:39 PM
do not set a date.
6:40 PM
That's not how it works. It's different for everyone.
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this could be unhealthy...
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...it depends on what the date is for.
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Deleted User 5/20/2018 6:40 PM
I'm not not setting a date
6:40 PM
Never mind
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If it's a date of "I will have progress by X date", that generally isn't good.
6:41 PM
For a few reasons, actually - it encourages possible false progress of "faking it" to be able to say "I did it" - or it can lead to further doubt and depression over not succeeding. Or, I suppose, it could lead to more consistent effort and actual progress - but it has similar dangers to assuming everything.
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:42 PM
I think everything that has been said so far gets the Ikari seal of approval
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wooo. Also hey Ikari (edited)
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That said.
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:42 PM
I'll take that as hey lol
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:42 PM
lol
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Deleted User 5/20/2018 6:42 PM
Idk man
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Setting a schedule to force is not a bad idea, @Deleted User.
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:43 PM
@SkyeNet I wish host would force in the DW more often
6:43 PM
I haven't been in the bunker for more than 10 seconds in like 4 days
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I'm not familiar with that abbreviation.
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bduddy #Diana# 5/20/2018 6:43 PM
set a goal, sure, but don't put a date to it.
6:43 PM
Agreed.
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I'm assuming DW is "dream world", as in "daydream world", as in "wonderland".
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Deleted User 5/20/2018 6:44 PM
I can initiate the dream world on my own right? Like not sleeping?
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...it's a daydream. Imagination.
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:45 PM
yes the DW is our WL
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not sure what you're askinh
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You can do it at any point.
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:45 PM
we've never actually been to the DW in a sleeping dream
6:45 PM
only through visualization
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Deleted User 5/20/2018 6:46 PM
Oh I thought that's what it was Lucid dreaming
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You can get there through a lucid dream, but you create it actively
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You can try to learn to lucid dream as well, if you'd like - but most people don't.
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:46 PM
We would like to experience it in a Lucid Dream, however host has great difficulty in becoming lucid
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At the very least, it isn't necessary.
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:46 PM
just this morning he turned off his alarm, IN HIS DREAM, and failed to become lucid
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bduddy #Diana# 5/20/2018 6:46 PM
Don't worry about lucid dreaming for now.
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bduddy #Diana# 5/20/2018 6:47 PM
Last night I specifically realized I was in a dream, and my response was... to wake myself up. ><
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Deleted User 5/20/2018 6:47 PM
Nice one
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yeah, well
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Skye has had dreams in which she fell asleep, woke up, and was still dreaming that she was in her mother's house form a decade ago.
6:47 PM
Dreams can be quite odd.
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bduddy #Diana# 5/20/2018 6:47 PM
of course, I usually only realize that when something bad is happening. But it's still annoying. Especially now that I have a good reason to lucid dream. But, anyway. Don't worry about it. No reason to add anything more to your plate.
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In any case, yes. @Deleted User. The "wonderland" is just imagination, a daydream. People typically make it a consistent setting, hence the term "wonderland".
6:49 PM
Any relation to going down the rabbit hole being a metaphor for tulpamancy is strictly likely.
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:53 PM
Host is currently switching back and forth between talking to his girlfriend and letting me talk on here....is this co-fronting?
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no experience in that, sorry
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:53 PM
@SkyeNet care to comment?
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Close enough.
6:54 PM
Skye and I are doing that essentially all the time.
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It's giving each other time to do their own things.
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:56 PM
It almost feels like our consciousness switches as simply as Alt+Tab
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bduddy #Diana# 5/20/2018 6:56 PM
well, how are you talking? just proxying, or what?
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Deleted User 5/20/2018 6:57 PM
I was gonna ask a thing but I'll wait
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:57 PM
some times he will switch and I will simply observe on my end, and then he will be primary front again
6:57 PM
@bduddy #Diana# I think we are getting the hang of in-n-out possession, as I have decided to call it
6:57 PM
@Deleted User ask away
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That said, in this case - Skye is certainly typing what I wish to say.
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Go ahead Nathan
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:58 PM
hmm....well I suppose I am not directly typing but...basically as soon as I have thoughts, they become typed via muscle memory so MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
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Deleted User 5/20/2018 6:58 PM
So even when I'm just kinda daydreaming about me and her is that still interaction?
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Ikari | O1-2 5/20/2018 6:59 PM
yup
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